Les Mikesell <lesmikesell at gmail.com> wrote: > Accepting the blame remotely isn't quite the same as working > at the same place for a decade or more and having to live > with what you built. If I hadn't left my first salaried job years ago, I'd probably still be there. I was there 3 years and _did_ have to live with what I built. I made 2 major mistakes in that time, and accepted full responsibility. That was in the aerospace industry. At the time, there were 7 dead astronaunts, so I don't play CYA games. Unfortunately, many people still do -- as well as political games -- and that's why there are 7 more dead astronauts. But yes, since then, I've found a niche as a contractor. Now I will readily point out that I get _repeat_ business over the years from the same, past clients -- including my former employers where I held salaried positions. Two clients are large, Fortune 100** companies. [ **Oh God, I know someone's going to complain about credentials yet again. ;-] In 1 case, I left over something, and then was brought back later in a serious admission of "yes, you told us so." > Your rants on the side of security vs. convenience What "rant"? I've seen other people who have the same position *I*. ;-> Don't confuse what some others have said from _any_ viewpoint with what I have said. ;-> I have continually stated that there are reasons for SELinux, and I don't agree with the "absolutism" of _either_ side. But RBAC/MAC is a necessity that you can't ignore. And if you're waiting for the fantasy that it won't break things, then you're living in the same fantasy world that a deny all outgoing policy default on a firewall "just works." ;-> > would be more believable if you added that you did all of > your own work under such conditions and planned to continue > for the foreseeable future. So until then, my statements don't hold any merit? My rant _was_ about contractors and their clients. All my former clients hold me in high regard -- and I still consult for every former employer I had a salaried position with (one was for 2 years, another was for 3 years). Please don't belittle my statements. I was trying to offer insight. I'm glad people can find positions for 10+ years. With exception of my very first, salaried employer, I've been in post-2000 rut of employers who just don't have openings. -- Bryan P.S. SIDE NOTE: I started my first salaried position I currently hold now 2 months ago. It's a small company and I could be gone tomorrow because of budget constraints. I do more engineering now, and I have left the IT consulting world for a time. But I still help former clients when I can. Since our systems are used to secure emergency communications, security is the natural part of our products. -- Bryan J. Smith | Sent from Yahoo Mail mailto:b.j.smith at ieee.org | (please excuse any http://thebs413.blogspot.com/ | missing headers)