CentOS mailing list, Thank you all for answering my questions and being so supportive over the last few months as I was running CentOS on my home machine. I have switched over to Ubuntu, and I will be devoting my learning efforts to that distribution from this point on. However, while I'm sure a new distribution will have the inevitable learning curve, a lot of the tips and tricks I learned here will definitely help me get a head start. Because a "good bye and thank you" message on it's own would not carry new information, I wanted to just offer an observation of mine which might help this list in communicating with future newbies who don't quite grasp CentOS objectives, as I did. It seems to me there is a division between a developer's focus on how things work, and a newbie's focus on results. Taking my recent situation with finding an MP3 player, I would look at PlayerA, and PlayerB, which both ran on CentOS. One had a great interface, and the other had a good tag editor. But I hoped to find a player that had both features together. Then I look on the web and discover PlayerC, which seems like it might carry both the features I want. I download it, but it doesn't work. I come to the list and ask why, and I'm advised that CentOS is an enterprise level distribution, and not meant for running cutting edge applications. So I'm confused. After all, PlayerC doesn't do anything that PlayerA and PlayerB don't already do on CentOS, it just happens to do them together. How, I wonder, am I doing anything "cutting edge", or that would threaten the stability of CentOS? It took me a while to realize that I was thinking about the results - playing MP3s, for example. But when developers were speaking about "cutting edge", they were speaking about the fact that the makers of the player were using exotic techniques which were incompatible with CentOS. Those techniques are opaque to me, so the miscommunication continued. So my parting advice is to suggest that the next time a newbie can't grasp why CentOS doesn't do what other distributions do, or why some applications don't work even though they are only doing something that other working applications do, that you explain the difference between results and methods. Had I seen that difference earlier, I might not have struggled with CentOS so long. It's clearly not the distribution for me. That's my suggestion, for whatever it's worth. I hope it can help with future newbies, as I would guess that I won't be the last to try CentOS. Good luck with making CentOS a preeminent enterprise class solution. It's a great distribution, and deserves its due of appreciation. All the best. Dave ( Unsubscribing after this message )