[CentOS] Why is yum not liked by some?

Bryan J. Smith b.j.smith at ieee.org
Thu Sep 8 12:32:42 UTC 2005

On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 21:30 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
> The reiserfsck runs seemed to work OK so my only complaint
> about that part is the oddball syntax needed to actually
> make it fix anything.

Well, you've had good luck then.

> I'm just wondering why it is so likely to need the fsck at
> all (maybe 50% of my crashes when busy)

On all filesystems?  Or just 50% chance that one filesystem will need a

[ SIDE NOTE from a previous thread:  Another reason to segment your
filesystems is not only to "localize" any fsck, but segmentation
actually _reduces_ the risk of needed a fsck because commits are more
localized/contained (especially to /tmp, /var, etc...). ]

> and if xfs would be better about that.

Hmmm, not sure "better" is a good word.  As much as I love XFS and have
_rarely_ had to run "xfs_repair" and the fact that it does do "on-line"
journal replays, that doesn't necessarily mean it's "better."

In fact, I still do _not_ trust anything but SGI's specific XFS build.
I do not trust the kernel 2.4 backport, and I'm still testing the kernel
2.6 integration.

> I thought it was supposed to know what was committed to disk and never
> leave it in an inconsistent state. 

Nope.  You through incorrectly.

The _only_ purpose of journaling is to _reduce_ the time it takes to
make the filesystem consistent.  That assumes the journaling is good
and/or the journal replay/unplay works.

There is absolutely _no_ way to guarantee a commit, although full data
journaling with a NVRAM board comes close.

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