While it's not directly related to the original thread, there are also efforts to bring some major version changes to centos. These are in the centosplus repository and are mostly contributions from the community that are confirmed working & reasonably stable. Most of them are a major break from the stock centos, things like php5, a kernel with support for xfs/jfs/ntfs etc. Just an FYI. -- Jim Perrin System Administrator - UIT Ft Gordon & US Army Signal Center