Hi I have just installed a lot of updates on a CentOS 4 box and w appears to have stopped working -- this machine has 3 or 4 people connected via ssh, yet this is all that is outputted: # w 20:46:32 up 301 days, 3:21, 0 users, load average: 0.02, 0.03, 0.04 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT "rpmverify procps" returns nothing so the package hasn't been messed with. I don't want to reboot the server -- does any have any suggestions what could be done to get w working again? Thanks Chris -- Chris Croome <chris at webarchitects.co.uk> web design http://www.webarchitects.co.uk/ web content management http://mkdoc.com/