On Fri, 2006-08-25 at 22:30 +0800, Feizhou wrote: > Les, quit making false statements about qmail. Nothing I've said about qmail has been false. > qmail does not have any > logical flaws otherwise Wietse would not follow the same design > principles in postfix after his spat with DJB. That's a funny interpretation - if qmail had been done correctly there would have been no need for postfix. > qmail's problem is that > the author has not done any updates to it since 1998 to handle the > changed needs required of a MTA software since then. In the open source world that is not a problem. If something needs to be fixed, someone will fix it because they are allowed to. That has happened with sendmail. What the original author does or doesn't do is mostly irrelevant. > qmail is a fine piece of software and it also introduced the maildir > format which is now widely supported and used by anyone who cares about > the integrity of their mailboxes. I have no problem with maildir - or the format cyrus uses for that matter, but that's not relevant to a discussion of mail transports. Sendmail doesn't perform local delivery. If you want maildir, tell procmail to use that and you get maildir. If you want cyrus, use the delivery agent it provides. > I cannot understand what you have > against qmail to go around bad mouthing it. Don't tell me a stuffed > queue and perhaps a listing in some over zealous RBL was all it took. The first thing that turned me off about qmail was its insistence on sending separate copies of messages to multiple recipients at the same remote host. The machines I manage have always had a usage pattern of most email being to distribution groups along the lines of departmental memos with many recipients grouped at remote offices, and at the time delivery happened over slow and expensive private lines where this kind of stupid behavior just didn't work. I've never expected software to be perfect but I do expect it to improve over time. With anything written by DJB, this doesn't happen and the best thing to do is run away and don't look back. When qmail also demonstrated its inability to process inbound mail it was just additional proof that my first impression had been right. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell at gmail.com