[CentOS] CentOS 4 and Intel D965 motherboards

Thu Dec 7 16:48:39 UTC 2006
chrism at imntv.com <chrism at imntv.com>

Drew Weaver wrote:
> 	We have roughly 1200 Intel motherboards in production at the
> moment.. From the server line SE7500/SE7501/S2000/S3000, the desktop
> line, 845GLC, 945GTP, various 865 and 915 boards, and I believe we have
> had one single failure out of all of them including DOA, run failures,
> etc.
> YMMV but we used to use asus/tyan boards and we had a much higher
> failure/DOA rate.
> Thanks,
> -Drew
> -----Original Message-----
> From: centos-bounces at centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces at centos.org] On
> Behalf Of Aleksandar Milivojevic
> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 10:21 AM
> To: centos at centos.org
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 4 and Intel D965 motherboards
> Quoting John R Pierce <pierce at hogranch.com>:
>>> If it's not too late, return the motherboard, get something else.
>>> My personal experience with Intel's desktop motherboards is that they
>>> work most of the time for most of the people.
>> thats been the exact opposite of my experiences with Intel branded
>> motherboards.   They've been consistently well engineered, and well
>> built, have very good aftermarket support (BIOS upgrades and drivers 
>> are still available for nearly every board they've ever made, and they
>> are MUCH better documented than the typical taiwan stuff).
> Have you ever had to actually deal with Intel support.  Like, you have
> an issue, they resolve it?  I had to call them couple of times.  They
> did little or nothing.  The answer was always "it is not our problem
> that motherboard we made doesn't work".  Well engineered?  Motherboard
> that doesn't want to power on because you plugged a PCI card into it can
> hardly be called well engineered.  Thermal specs available on the web?
> More or less useless to end users.
> As I said.  They work most of the time.  When they do work, they work
> great.  When they don't work, good luck in getting any kind of support
> from Intel.  Been there, done that.  Ended up dissapointed big time.

I can't say that I've been through as many boards as Drew, but his 
experience is similar to mine.  I've had very few outright failures of 
Intel boards.  My only real complaint with Intel boards has been the 
somewhat spartan feature set, but for servers that is usually not a 
problem.  I've had a few bugs over the years (most of them on the i820 
and old i810/815 boards), but nothing that's bitten me hard in recent 
memory.  I've had a number of desktop machines with Abit and MSI boards 
that suffered from outright failures or just horrid instability issues.  
For "off brand" boards, I'm trying to stick with Tyan (bugs here too, 
but no show stoppers yet) and Supermicro (no problems to report there).