[CentOS] Re: clock, centos 4 and dual core?

Ugo Bellavance ugob at camo-route.com
Fri Feb 17 16:46:55 UTC 2006


Aleksandar Milivojevic wrote:
> Quoting Ugo Bellavance <ugob at camo-route.com>:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>>     I have a dual core athlon server and it is gaining 1 day every 2 days
>> w/o time sync.  Even with ntpd running, the time is not under control.
>> I must put a very frequent cronjob of 'ntpdate' to keep the time under
>> control.  This creates big problems since winbind eventually stops
>> working so my users can't access their data.
> 
> Running under VMware by any chance?  If yes read next paragraph, if not
> skip to the one after it (but you might still read both).
> 
> In current versions of VMware (for example ESX 2.5.x), 2.6 kernels are
> not yet officially supported.  What you described is one of the problems
> with 2.6 kernels and VMware.  Add "clock=pit" kernel option (in
> grub.conf or lilo.conf, whichever boot loader you use), don't use NTP to
> sync time, install vmware-tools onto each guest and enable time
> synchronization in them (by default it is off).  It should keep time in
> your guests under some controll.  The problem is mostly because 2.6
> kernels are much stricter in watching the frequency source selected for
> clock, and they also increased the frequncy of interrupts requested from
> it from 100Hz to 1000Hz (one global + one per CPU, or something like
> that).  This frequency is compile time kernel option (it is hard coded
> into the kernel, can't be changed once kernel is compiled). 
> Furthermore, frequency of interrupts increases with number of processor
> cores (so if each of your guests is configured with two virtual CPUs,
> it's 3000 interrupts per second per 2.6 guest, compared to only 300 per
> 2.4 guest).  With many guest running on bussy box, VMware might not be
> able to generate all needed virtual interrupts for 2.6 guest operating
> systems, and you get clock problems you are having.  There's a code in
> clock code in 2.6 kernel that attempts to correct for missed/skipped
> interrupts.  However under VMware it tends to overcorrect and your clock
> starts gaining time fast, like you described.  This is classic problem
> you'll encounter with current versions of VMware and guests running 2.6
> kernel.  It should be corrected in Vmware ESX 3.x (which should also
> have official support for 2.6 kernels).
> 
> If you are not running VMware, you might still experiment with clock
> option (it selects the frequency source kernel uses to keep track of
> time).  The default frequency source obviously doesn't work well for
> you.  Available sources are pit, tsc, cyclone and pmtmr, however not all
> are available on all motherboards (you'd need to check what kind of
> timers your motherboard has).  If specified source is not available
> (your motherboard doesn't have that hardware), kernel falls back to pit
> (or whatever kernel was patched to use by default).  You may also try
> hpet=disable kernel option (with or without clock option), which
> disables HPET (if present on motherboard) and falls back to real PIT.
> 
> Even if not using VMware, you might find this document a good read:
> 
> http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vmware_timekeeping.pdf
> 
> It describes timer hardware available in average PCs (PC Timer Hardware
> chapter) and describes various clock=xxx options (Timekeeping in
> Specific Operating Systems chapter, Linux section).
> 
> 
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pmtmr did it ! :)

Thanks!

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