I got in over my head. jpackage was/is too much for me at this time. Maybe for a long time. Sorry for diverting your efforts to try and help me. I only want to run SCALIX CE on this system. It needs the jdk and tomcat. But if you look: http://www.scalix.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=516&highlight=centos A number have gotten it running just fine with the 'broken' sun stuff. Perhaps Scalix is not so 'demanding'. So I am following instructions from above URL. I did learn a lot here, making up for some of the implied steps in the instructions. Perhaps I will have to do a complete reinstall of Centos to get out of the jpackage mess I might be in. Well I REALLY should learn Kickstart, and perhaps I will do that for this system! Again you are all a great help. If you need some crypto help. 802.11i or such, that is where I 'live'. Well at least I help right the specs. Someelse has to code them! Barrs Law of Recursive futility If you're smart enough to use one of these.... .....you can probably manage without one!