greetings if i do this in a script on a basic mail and web server setup groupadd -g 55 nofiles useradd -g nofiles -d /var/qmail/alias -s /sbin/nologin -p'*' -u 56 alias useradd -g nofiles -d /var/qmail -s /sbin/nologin -p'*' -u 57 qmaild useradd -g nofiles -d /var/qmail -s /sbin/nologin -p'*' -u 58 qmaill useradd -g nofiles -d /var/qmail -s /sbin/nologin -p'*' -u 59 qmailp groupadd -g 60 qmail useradd -g qmail -d /var/qmail -s /sbin/nologin -p'*' -u 61 qmailq useradd -g qmail -d /var/qmail -s /sbin/nologin -p'*' -u 62 qmailr useradd -g qmail -d /var/qmail -s /sbin/nologin -p'*' -u 63 qmails groupadd -g 64 vchkpw useradd -g vchkpw -d /home/vpopmail -s /sbin/nologin -p'*' -u 65 vpopmail will i cause any problems with DEFAULT upstream provider package addons that might use in the future that want to install with the same UID or GID numbers??? again, by default? it seems that between 55 and 70 is the small block of contiguous uid/gid space in general thanks and kind regards - rh -- Robert Hanson - Abba Communications Computer & Internet Services (509) 624-7159 - www.abbacomm.net