Grant McChesney wrote: > > There's a good summary here: > > http://voip-blog.tmcnet.com/telecom-crm/archives/2005/07/22/first-coffee-for-july-22-2005.asp Thanks -- I followed the trail a little bit more, and that article is actually a little non-informative about the hubjub that went on. It looks to be a tangled mess of morals involved, and I'm not entirely sure vTiger or Sugar is right. - vtiger is based on v1.0 of Sugar (so by now they're a lot different) - vtiger decided to fork before trying to contribute anything, removed all copyrights and rebranded work that wasn't theirs as their own code. The also consulted a lawyer regarding this beforehand, and within three hours after being contacted by Sugar they sent a letter to ESR saying they were right and such (which legally they may have been). Many seem to think this was orchestrated/premeditated and not in the spirit of Open Source. I'm not entirely sure that I'd want to use or stand behind vTiger, not unless some more in-depth research into their morals was conducted. Not that I'm at all a Sugar advocate, but something sure doesn't smell too kosher here, you know? Interesting...thanks for bringing this up. -te -- Troy Engel | Systems Engineer Fluid, Inc | http://www.fluid.com