-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 10:02:30PM +0800, Feizhou wrote: > >On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 12:24:22PM +0800, Feizhou wrote: > >>>>vpopmail has great user management tools? vpopmail is supported by > >>>>other mail related software such as dovecot and spamassassin. vpopmail > >>>>supports mysql tables which lends itself to integration with other > >>>>software that are mysql capable. > >>>> > >>>>Why would one NOT want to use (favourite mta) + vpopmail? > >>>You do know that exim can talk directly with MySQL, right ? And > >>>since you can specify the SQL Queries, the database can have > >>>any format, thus integrating with everything else ? > >>So does postfix. You are missing the point. vpopmail comes with all the > >>tools necessary. With postfix or exim, one would have to build their own. > > > >Humm ? I never had to build any tools. > > Oh? So account management was all manual via the sql command line? Depends if you call 3-line scripts a "tool" or "sql command line". > >>>Having exim talking directly with spamassassin is also very good and > >>>easy, and speed things up quite a bit. > >>Sure. spamassassin milter + postfix milter :P > > > >Are we talking about exim or postfix ? > > Both. You can get exim to talk directly to spamassassin and postfix > 2.3.3's milter capability alows the same with spamassassin milter. That is not exactly the same thing, since with "milter", you are adding one more layer. > >>>Using things like maildrop, vpopmail, amavis etc with exim is > >>>just a good way to slow things down. The direct connection between > >>>exim and everything else (spamassassin, antivirus etc) allows you > >>>to reject mails during delivery, without the need to accept it > >>>before passing to another agent. > >>??? postfix -> maildrop -> home dir/Maildir > >> > >>Nothing in my system goes through vpopmail. vpopmail only creates the > >>Maildirs and maintains the mysql tables. > > > >If you are using postfix, then it does make send to use vpopmail. > >I'm not saying otherwise. > > You do not have to use vpopmail with postfix. postfix can do just about > the same with its own virtual mail backend that supports SQL. Yes, but the virtual mail backend of postfix is much less flexible, and so using vpopmail makes sense. > The things that you have listed can all be done with postfix too. You > can have SQL lookups just about anywhere in postfix too. postfix has its > own virtual mail LDA that supports SQL and postfix can make use of that > database at the smtp level too. Back to vpopmail, direct use of vpopmail > tables will probably only be possible with exim and postfix. > > So then, does exim provide user account management tools? Or is your sql > backend also the system account backend? If not, did you not have to > build tools to handle user account management or creation of user filter > recipes? If you have anything that does user management based on sql, you can make exim use those tables. Even tho I haven't tried, it is very likely that you can even use the same tools you use for vpopmail. Or for anything else. []s - -- Rodrigo Barbosa "Quid quid Latine dictum sit, altum viditur" "Be excellent to each other ..." - Bill & Ted (Wyld Stallyns) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFRg3FpdyWzQ5b5ckRApdqAKCQ3kJ0ta5U/rIvsu1K5pzCQn8iuQCgmz4I OTdoCh8SQFgnr049e17w+9s= =evf/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----