I would not worry too much about Oracle. I don't think that they will that successful with repackaging and selling the support for Linux. Pervasive tried the same thing with PostgreSql. Everybody could download it, but people would to pay for support. After a year, they quit and stopped providing support for PostgreSql. The official reason they gave: there is too much community support. In plain English, people did not buy their support because the PostgreSql community was too good and too responsive. In the RH community, there are the own that are willing to pay for RedHat, these will still pay for it. The others are here! Johnny, and all the others will embarrass Oracle. With the updates coming within hours, the mailing list, the extended repositories... With the regular publication that Oracle can't keep up with CentOS, oracle won't stay too long in that business. BTW, thanks for the great job that you are doing. -- Thanks http://www.sqlhacks.com The SQL knowledge base