I'm wondering about yum update vs. yum upgrade. The man page says use upgrade (actually the obsoletes flag which is set in upgrade and not update) when doing something like a linux 8.0 to linux 9 upgrade. Something we can't do with CentOS, i.e. 3 to 4. So, is it better to use update or upgrade when going from 4.3 to 4.4? Doesn't RedHat call these "Quarterly Updates" and not "Quarterly Upgrades"? And, it seems that the folks having trouble were doing yum upgrade. I'm wondering if anyone is experiencing the same difficulties when doing yum update? And --obsoletes.... seems like the man page for yum really doesn't say much about what this actually does.. but it sounds like something I don't want to use... sounds like it leaves obsoletes laying around? from man page "upgrade Is the same as the update command with the --obsoletes flag set." "If the --obsoletes flag is present yum will include package obsoletes in its calculations - this makes it better for distro-version changes, for example: upgrading from somelinux 8.0 to somelinux 9." " yum list obsoletes [regexp1] [...] List the packages installed on the system that are obsoleted by packages in any yum repository listed in the config file." Could this be what's causing the conflicts with sqlite? And if update vs. upgrade doesn't make any difference (from my first question).. Has a 'clear' direction for painless updating emerged? Best, John Hinton