Almost sounds like a dhcp issue for some reason huh... kinda like how winblah deals with not getting a network huh? Yet, changing the zeroconf network to "no" should take care of it And most importantly, check to see if you have a default gateway ip address. That realistically is why you cannot get out, the machine works on local net yet doesn't know where to send packets to other than local net - rh -- Robert - Abba Communications Computer & Internet Services (509) 624-7159 - www.abbacomm.net