-> > -> -> > -> > Please, please forgive me yet How about -> > -> > C.R.F.P -> > -> > where the F kinda looks like an A or small a -> -> Lol. Took me a couple seconds. -> Well you could get funky with it and make the A's right side be crumbling and falling apart transforming into the F in a *graphic* and then people would understand better? :-) - rh