Ok just curious how many hits the http://isoredirect.centos.org/centos/5/isos/ URL was getting? lol I think I check at least 4-5 times a day and all of a sudden instead of forbidden error I got in!!! ... only to find the tail end of some of the powers' humor: "5 hasnt been released" LOL I just about fell over -- L -- "To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work ON it."