On 4/13/07, John Summerfield <debian at herakles.homelinux.org> wrote: > Johnny Hughes wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 12:03 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote: > >> Mário Gamito wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I've just installed CentOS 5. > >>> I issued a yum update, and to my astonishment there are already 75 MB of > >>> updates. > >>> And i didn't even installed X. > >>> > >>> Why is this ? > >> These are packages that have been updated since the time CentOS-5's > >> package tree was frozen upstream. Btw, you might want to check what the > >> updates are - its possible you have more software installed on the > >> machine than you need. > >> > >> - KB > > > > To explain this a little more ... here goes: > > > > 1. People want the versions of files on the CentOS to discs to match > > the upstream versions for software control > > Some do, some don't. Some download at work and install at home. There's > 75 Mbytes of updates wouldn't get to my machines at home. > An updates repo in the collection would be a handy compromise, I think I > suggested this a while ago. > It sounds nice but has too many problems in implimintation: 1) Anaconda does not deal with updates during install. Upgrades need to be placed in the main trees and the disk would need to be respun regularly. My memory is a bit weak here, but I think that trying to add the code to deal with 'updates' during install seems to have caused a lot of 'exceptions' in the Fedora code and causes anaconda to be even more memory happy. 2) Respinning the disks breaks upstream compatibility that a lot of ISV software looks for to see if a system is 'supported' and will run on it. 3) If a person installs in 3 weeks from now when say another 75-200 MB of updates are available.. it doesnt help any (especially if those updates cover a lot of what was on the disk). 4) An updates iso might be possible, but it is more disk space on overtaxed servers and more work for the 3-10 core people. -- Stephen J Smoogen. -- CSIRT/Linux System Administrator How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed in a naughty world. = Shakespeare. "The Merchant of Venice"