On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 07:42 -0500, William L. Maltby wrote: > On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 18:20 -0800, John R Pierce wrote: > > William L. Maltby wrote: > > > Ah, yes. It sounds so simple. <snip> > > > ... In fact, the /usr/share/doc bitorrent files say I need to > > > start with a tracker. > > > > > > > > > when the CentOS tracker was down, I fired up uTorrent on a Windows box > > w/ the 5.1 i386 dvd torrent, and it managed to find a few dozen peers > > in a few minutes and pretty quickly was downloading at close to my > > wirespeed. Within about half an hour, I was uploading at 60% of my > > bandwidth and still climbing, and it showed that there were 118 or > > something available peers, but uTorrent tends to only connect to 30 or > > so at once to keep the traffic efficient. > > Still blissful (ignorance is ...), hit me with a clue bat if I'm way off > base here. > > Now, that makes sense (IIUC the implications of all I've read and what > y'all have posted). You had already been successfully connected and > acquired the DHT during previous sessions. I can guess that this would > be used in place of an (un?)available tracker. > > <snip a bunch of guesses and theorizing> > > > > i just fired it back up to go ahead and share, I'm seeing 180 seeds and > > 190 peers on i386, and 116/54 on x86_64... I'll leave it running for > > the holidays at least. > > I killed the rtorrent for the two 5.1 torrents and started bittorrent- > GUI on them. All is working well and the rtorrent, delivering 4.6 stuff, > and bittorrent (5.1 stuff) are playing nicely and sharing the bandwidth > well. > > After seeding for an indeterminate time, I'll kill the GUI and start the > console or ncurses bittorrent with the --trackerless option and see if > it uses the DHT/routing and other information that bittorrent seems to > stash in ~/.bittorrent/data directory. This depends on the presence of > other active clients, of course. > > I'll post backin a day or two. No go. See my reply, later today, to Re: [CentOS] Trackerless torrents (was: Can't connect to torrent tracker) Briefly, with the bittorrent from Rpmforge, which is old, a .torrent file that specifies a tracker cause the bittorrent to fail if the tracker can not be contacted. That other reply includes a compressed "log" of activities and I would be interested what results other clients give when the same test is emulated. > > Meanwhile, redundancy anyone? > <snip> I'll do an abbreviated emulation of these tests with rtorrent later, but I expect similar results. -- Bill