Johnny Hughes wrote: > On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 19:00 -0800, Peter Serwe wrote: > > That is because that is what CentOS-4 was released with ... and we don't > want everyone who has custom modules to go through what you did because > we pushed an update :P > > The way an enterprise distro works is pretty much all the major apps get > bug fixes and security updates only after release ... but they do not > move up to newer MAJOR versions. This is true throughout the lifetime > of the distro. It is _especially_ true for server apps. > > Can you imagine the pissed-offedness IF you do an update for httpd and > none of your custom modules worked ... and then imagine you had hired > someone and paid $500,000.00 to have them designed, and you did not have > anyone in house to fix them :P > > Instead, an enterprise distro will backport bug fixes and security > updates. See this link: > > http://www.redhat.com/advice/speaks_backport.html > > That $500K custom module issue is exactly why the system has stayed running under crusty old RH9 for the last 8 years. The in-house C talent we had when it was written is long gone, and the three of us working on this project over the last month are *not* C developers, we're just faking it. Truth be told, I'm not even faking it, I pretty much dumped onto the two guys who have 'Developer' as part of their job title. While we technically *don't* have the in-house talent to fix them, somehow, we managed to pull this one out of our <insert_euphemism_for_that_place_here>'s. I'll have to take a peek at that url, and pass the link along. > Very significant obstacles ... everything needs to be recompiled to use > the new version. And even then, it breaks things. It is possible, if > you rebuild enough stuff. However ... once you rebuild all that, might > as well be using Fedora Core. Especially since you need to keep > rebuilding it every update. > Glad to hear my gut is still fully functional, I basically said as much in a meeting with the guys yesterday at lunch, mostly I had to send a mail out to you guys just to make absolutely sure I wasn't ASSuming too much. I'm no more immune to that reflex than anyone else. :) > RHEL-5b2 does contain httpd-2.2, so CentOS-5 will as well when released. > Glad to hear it :) We'll look at it more when CentOS-5 gets released, and maybe talk to you guys about playing with the beta if we can be of some assistance, and get a jump on our port. Thanks much Johnny, Peter -- Peter Serwe <peter at infostreet dot com> http://www.infostreet.com "The only true sports are bullfighting, mountain climbing and auto racing." -Earnest Hemingway "Because everything else requires only one ball." -Unknown "Do you wanna go fast or suck?" -Mike Kojima "There are two things no man will admit he cannot do well: drive and make love." -Sir Stirling Moss