[CentOS] Re: Mixing RPMforge and EPEL (Was: EPEL repo)

Dag Wieers dag at wieers.com
Tue Jul 31 20:19:44 UTC 2007

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, Axel Thimm wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 03:43:31PM -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> > Johnny Hughes wrote:
> > 
> > > Rex Dieter wrote:
> > >> It's quite a stetch from "no repotags" to
> > >> conclude "EPEL has no interest" in compatibility.
> >  
> > >> In fact, epel (and fedora) repo is, by design and policy, supposed to be
> > >> compatible and considerate of other repos, e.g. most notably,
> > >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/RepositoryCollaboration
> > >> (among other project policy documents).
> >  
> > >> When I posted the aforementioned repository collaboration document to the
> > >> rpmforge list(s) for comment, it received none.
> > 
> > > There is talk about cooperation and collaboration, however whenever Axel
> > > or Dag made any kind of suggestions on the EPEL list, they were not
> > > given very much "real" consideration. 
> > 
> > Only wrt to repotags.  Don't remember any serious/significant discussions
> > outside of that since.  Am I missing something?
> Lots of things, there was even a face-to-face meeting at LT07. Where
> it was revealed that it was spot's fault that repotags were killed
> (but I guess that's just the non-present scape-goat methology)

Well, if I remember correctly, during that meeting Max Spevack asked why 
repotags were being dismissed if they fixed something that was otherwise 
not fixable.

After that it was apparent repotags were going to be back. Of course, it 
reappeared on the mailinglist and was voted down again.

The only way the repotags would have gotten through is if we could have 
everybody from the EPEL steering commitee together and explained them 
everything we did at LT07.

My believe is that repotags was not the issue. There was something else 
that made it impossible. And I can not undo the thought that it is because 
not having repotags makes EPEL authoritative and masks dependency 

It has an unfair advantage for the repository that does not tag its 
packages, and it is certainly not advantageous to the userbase.

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