[CentOS] CentOS Based Linux Firewall Document

Thu Jun 7 19:34:47 UTC 2007

hey pctech,

Instead of sniping with you over your chosen way to control access:

May i have a copy please?  If I like it i would offer the following:

I'll put this up on my businesses site for you, give you full 
accreditation, and it will only be a downloadable document(unless you 
want it viewable as well).  Since my server is unmetered bandwidth 
overages aren't an issue.

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Sure.  I have no problem with this, and never have.  Where would you like me to send it to?

pctech at mybellybutton.com wrote:
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> pctech at mybellybutton.com wrote:
>> Unfortunately, I have had nothing, thus far, but bad experiences with wikis. 

> Especially when you begin letting others "mark up" something that you've 
posted 
> there.  At that point, because your name is on it, you "own" all of their 
> mistakes.  I'm not saying that the CentOS wiki is like that, just wikis in 
> general.
>> WikiPedia is probably one of the most horrifically obvious examples of what 
I 
> am talking about.  Not only do you have all of the blatant inaccuracies, 
which 
> tend to get attributed back to the original article author, but you also have 

> all of the drama that goes along with it.
>> Things start to go sideways when you begin to let others exert their own 
> creative control over something with your name on it.  I'm all for the free 
> exchange of ideas, information, and knowledge.  I'm not all for getting 
blamed 
> for some crap someone added to something with my name on it.  Been there, 
done 
> that, don't need that drama anymore.
>> Some wikis, again I speak in general, not of the CentOS wiki, also demand 
> that you turn over any and all rights to whatever you post there.  While I 
> enjoy sharing my knowledge with the world for free, I will be damned if I 
will 
> give up my rights to profit from it in the future.  Even the BSD license 
> doesn't expect this.
>> This document, the firewall one, is the first in a series of documents that 
I 
> plan on writing.  I've worked very hard to get it to the state that it is at 

> right now.  It's what I consider a "living document" and will be changing as 

> necessary.  The second in the series is a document on building a network 
> monitor based on open source tools.  I've just begun writing it.  I am hoping 

> to have it completed in a couple of months, now that I have a format I am 
happy 
> with for my documents.  The third of the series will be on building a VPN 
> concentrator based on open source tools.  Part of what takes me so long to 
> write these documents is that I don't actually enjoy writing.  I enjoy doing. 

> The firewall document started out of necessity to build multiple Linux based 

> firewalls consistently and rapidly for myself and just morphed into something 

> that I decided to share with the community.  I figured that since there 
wasn't 
> much out there that was useful others might like it.
>> While it's, most definitely, not the be-all end-all of Linux based firewall 

> information, I think it's a pretty good document that I've worked very hard 
to 
> write in a presentable manner that most people could understand and even 
expand 
> upon for themselves.  I am all for receiving comments and suggestions for 
> future revisions of the document, any document that I write for that matter.  

> I'm just not all for having my documents hacked apart by every Tom, Dick, and 

> Harry on the Internet and then all of the misinformation getting lumped onto 
my 
> shoulders because I happen to be the person that wrote the original document. 

> I've already had enough drama from the CentOS forums where I got accused of 
> being an e-mail address harvester for a spammer.  No thanks.  I don't need 
that 
> in my life.  I'm just a computer network engineer that THOUGHT he was doing 
the 
> right thing by giving back to the community.
> 
> 
> Understood, that's your right. It seems kind of silly, though, to go to
> the trouble of writing so much, then limit yourself with sharing to only
> a very small percentage of the CentOS community by broadcasting a
> message to e-mail you for documentation. Documentation is supposed to be
> readily available, that's the point of it, at least from my perspective,
> no matter what the license or stipulations of the content are.
> 
> Although you can pick out a license for your material that would cover
> protecting the interests you have expressed, yet at the same time
> allowing others to share in your material. One of the Creative Commons
> license, or another, would do the trick.
> 
> That said, do you not have a place to host the document then? It seems
> that if you've gone to that much trouble to write something, then
> perhaps you just need a spot somewhere to host the document?
> 
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> 
> Currently I have a domain, yes, however my bandwidth is rather limited.  By 
cost, not by speed.  I don't feel like incurring hundreds of dollars in usage 
fees to post this on my domain.
> 
> 
> Licensing is good and fine, except for the fact that once you post something 
on a wiki, in most cases, anyone that comes along can freely add to and modify 
the content of what you've posted.  This happens on Wikipedia quite frequently. 
 This doesn't cover the "It's your fault because you wrote the document" blame 
that gets lumped on you when something goes wrong from a change that someone 
else made.  The person who's name is on the document is the one that is going 
to get his or her neck wrung by the pissed off person.  I've had it happen in 
the past.  I don't care to repeat it.  I really don't like lawyers sending me 
letters because of stupidity like that.
> 
> I originally chose the method that I use for disseminating it because, to be 
honest, I don't really see that there is enough interest in it to invest the 
time or money into something larger.  I have, however, considered asking the 
admins of the IEEE Computer Society, LOPSA, or AZSAGE if I could post it on 
their sites when I renew my memberships.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Max
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