On Wednesday 06 June 2007 16:27:28 Max Hetrick wrote: > pctech at mybellybutton.com wrote: > > Unfortunately, I have had nothing, thus far, but bad experiences with > > wikis. Especially when you begin letting others "mark up" something that > > you've posted there. At that point, because your name is on it, you > > "own" all of their mistakes. I'm not saying that the CentOS wiki is like > > that, just wikis in general. > > > > WikiPedia is probably one of the most horrifically obvious examples of > > what I am talking about. Not only do you have all of the blatant > > inaccuracies, which tend to get attributed back to the original article > > author, but you also have all of the drama that goes along with it. > > > > Things start to go sideways when you begin to let others exert their own > > creative control over something with your name on it. I'm all for the > > free exchange of ideas, information, and knowledge. I'm not all for > > getting blamed for some crap someone added to something with my name on > > it. Been there, done that, don't need that drama anymore. > > > > Some wikis, again I speak in general, not of the CentOS wiki, also demand > > that you turn over any and all rights to whatever you post there. While > > I enjoy sharing my knowledge with the world for free, I will be damned if > > I will give up my rights to profit from it in the future. Even the BSD > > license doesn't expect this. > > > > This document, the firewall one, is the first in a series of documents > > that I plan on writing. I've worked very hard to get it to the state > > that it is at right now. It's what I consider a "living document" and > > will be changing as necessary. The second in the series is a document on > > building a network monitor based on open source tools. I've just begun > > writing it. I am hoping to have it completed in a couple of months, now > > that I have a format I am happy with for my documents. The third of the > > series will be on building a VPN concentrator based on open source tools. > > Part of what takes me so long to write these documents is that I don't > > actually enjoy writing. I enjoy doing. The firewall document started > > out of necessity to build multiple Linux based firewalls consistently and > > rapidly for myself and just morphed into something that I decided to > > share with the community. I figured that since there wasn't much out > > there that was useful others might like it. > > > > While it's, most definitely, not the be-all end-all of Linux based > > firewall information, I think it's a pretty good document that I've > > worked very hard to write in a presentable manner that most people could > > understand and even expand upon for themselves. I am all for receiving > > comments and suggestions for future revisions of the document, any > > document that I write for that matter. I'm just not all for having my > > documents hacked apart by every Tom, Dick, and Harry on the Internet and > > then all of the misinformation getting lumped onto my shoulders because I > > happen to be the person that wrote the original document. I've already > > had enough drama from the CentOS forums where I got accused of being an > > e-mail address harvester for a spammer. No thanks. I don't need that in > > my life. I'm just a computer network engineer that THOUGHT he was doing > > the right thing by giving back to the community. > > Understood, that's your right. It seems kind of silly, though, to go to > the trouble of writing so much, then limit yourself with sharing to only > a very small percentage of the CentOS community by broadcasting a > message to e-mail you for documentation. Documentation is supposed to be > readily available, that's the point of it, at least from my perspective, > no matter what the license or stipulations of the content are. > > Although you can pick out a license for your material that would cover > protecting the interests you have expressed, yet at the same time > allowing others to share in your material. One of the Creative Commons > license, or another, would do the trick. > > That said, do you not have a place to host the document then? It seems > that if you've gone to that much trouble to write something, then > perhaps you just need a spot somewhere to host the document? > > Regards, > Max > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Just a thought how about releasing it as a "how to"? -- Guy Fawkes, the only man to enter the house's of parliment with honest intentions, (he was going to blow them up!) Registered Linux user number 414240