> You need a Wiki account (FAS): > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiEditing#head-3d4b8815f923a8f137fb466901ca2cf1b567cf0f > > You can contact me if you like to get added to the EditGroup when > you've completed the process It was obvious that I would need an account, so I made one. It was less than obvious that it would be useless. It's only now that I've read the whole complexity of the process to be performed *before* someone could add you to the EditGroup -- it's so unbelievable for a poor civilian that I am that I feel like I am already at Gitmo! Here's what I could read one should do: 1. Complete the Contributor License Agreement, but this has prerequisite steps. 2. In order to do that, you have to create a SSH key. 3. You then have to create a GPG key. 4. You have to create a Fedora account (not a wiki account!). 5. For that, your GPG key should be published to hkp://pgp.mit.edu/. 6. Submit the form to apply for a Fedora account. 7. Request the Contributor License Agreement (CLA). 8. Edit it to agree with it, GPG-sign it, and send it back. 9. Only now you can contact someone from the EditGroup to ask for the right to edit the wiki page that holds the EPEL wishlist! To me, it would be simpler to apply to visit the Pentagon or the CIA! I am disgusted by the way the Fedora people handle all this stuff. Everyone knowing how a Bugzilla works, or even how a mailing list works, can easily find that much simpler ways were available to the public to be able to SUGGEST a few packages for inclusion in EPEL. When GNOME asked the public in August-Sept. 2006 what new game to add to GNOME games, before setting up the Usage Survey, a suggestion list was open. It was easy to add suggestions there, by simply creating a wiki account, no fuss added, no strings attached. Now I know I can't expect for *anything* from EPEL. I can only rely on what's already there, plus what we can find in centosplus, Dag, Karan, ATrpms, and a few others. I am shocked. R-C Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com