I'm noticing that logrotate's default configuration for rotating /var/ log/secure and /var/log/messages partially fails if root's shell is set to /bin/tcsh (via chsh). (Running on CentOS 4.4; logrotate-3.7.1-5.RHEL4). What seems to be happening is that the logrotate.d/syslog postrotate command runs: /bin/kill -HUP `cat /var/run/syslogd.pid 2> /dev/null` 2> /dev/null || true Under bash, this redirects stderr to /dev/null. Under tcsh, this produces the error: cat: 2: No such file or directory What happens in this scenario is that the log gets rotated, but syslogd does not receive the SIGHUP, so nothing gets logged, at all. (i.e. secure and messages are 0 bytes until syslog is kicked). I'm just going to set the default shell for root back to bash, but I wanted to ask the list if there is any general "rule of thumb" that root's shell should be bash? best, Jeff