MrKiwi wrote: Thanks Mr Kiwi. > centos at 911networks.com wrote: > >> On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:13:00 +0900 >> John Summerfield <debian at herakles.homelinux.org> wrote: >> >>> The means that you need to learn to use google to find how to do >>> things. Google is faster than any mailing list, and will usually >>> turn up better answers. >>> >> >> Let me translate your answer: >> >> This mailing list is useless and should not be used. >> >> Where does it say on the announcement email when I joined, that >> this mailing list should not be used to ask question, and we >> should drop it in favour of Google? >> > > Woah there centos at 911networks.com ... > I cant quite work out if you are the same person as the original poster, > but that point is not relevant; your tone is. He's not. > You can use that tone when you're talking/emailing a paid rep/helpdesk > but not here. Do you really think that the community is going to leap > into action to help solve a problem after a snipe like that? > > If you have an axe to grind, pay for some support from (eg) RHEL - they > will be happy to listen. > > What John meant (imho) is that for questions like the original poster, > google is a more appropriate source of information. You wont find many > subscribers here who are willing to answer questions which clearly show > you/OP haven't bothered to do a 10 second search. I have been helping people on many lists for many years - if you look up my name at googlism.com you will find some statements about me that are substantially true, but I expect people to make a decent effort to help themselves first I would rather check my distro for relevant documentation, then spend half an hour with Google than wait the probably 24 or 48 hours to get a reply on any list. If those don't help, then when I go to the list I make it clear that I have done some homework (or just rarely confess I don't know where to start, googling for a product called "word" is fairly difficult). And I try to provide good information for people to assess. Mostly, when I answer, I try to tell people how to help themselves. I'd rather teach you how to catch a fish than give you a fish: catching fish is more fun. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu Z1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu Please do not reply off-list