Hi, after reading the docs (no man page) and seeing a few example howtos, I see none for Centos specifically. I hereby offer to write this and even host it, and any other wiki-able howto you want, if you can school me on the first few steps relevant to how to link up the current rpmforge rpm for RHEL4-64. See, right now, the one for centos loads into the /usr/share/doc, which is an odd place to stash an executable, -logic perhaps being you just symlink however you want. Now having a time to spare, I appeal to you with paypal beer $. I'd like to of course script this specifically for centos. I have firewall rules and other protections, but it's (denyhosts) too cool to pass up. reminds me a bit of portsentry, or whatever they call it now, tri-sentry, maybe it's quad-sentry now or... I can also trade you some mega-spiffy ultra-detailed centos build scripts for tomcat servers, squid machines, etc. -krb