[CentOS] New lists

Tue May 1 23:05:55 UTC 2007
John Summerfield <debian at herakles.homelinux.org>

Ioannis Vranos wrote:
> John Summerfield wrote:
>> Think of this as a motion as one might move at a meeting. Discussion 
>> and refinement are in order.
>>
>>
>> I don't understand the current rationale for a single CentOS users' 
>> list; probably in times past it was sensible, but I think the time has 
>> come for splitting the list by release.
>>
>> I'm speaking from my own perspective, but I'm sure others have similar 
>> stories. How many users use all CentOS releases?
>>
>> I am not on the Fedora users' list because of the volume of email, 
>> though I do use Fedora Core and might usefully contribute to FC in 
>> that way.
>>
>> Similarly, I'm no longer on the OpenSUSE list, same story.
>>
>> The time has come when I must, again, reduce the volume of email I 
>> see, because it's clogging my modem.
>>
>> I use CentOS4 and plan to use CentOS5. I am interested in email for 
>> those, but not for CentOS 3 (I have no systems) nor CentOS 2 (I have 
>> one RHL 7.3 system that thinks it's CentOS 2, but it's in maintenance 
>> mode, and anything I do I will do alone).
>>
>> I don't know how much email I would eliminate by dropping email for 
>> Centos < C4, but when I move to CentOS 5 I will lose interest in C4 
>> and then there will be savings.
>>
>> If this list were split into one for each release, then subscribers 
>> could choose which email they see. At present, it's all or none, and 
>> neither suits me.
>>
>> If this list is split into four, then I expect the transition method 
>> would be to subscribe everyone on this list to the new four.
>>
>> At some point, this would become read-only (nobody posts), or maybe 
>> all mail for this goes (via a filter to fix the headers) to all the 
>> others.
>>
>> By "fix the headers" I mean "do whatever it takes to ensure replies go 
>> to the list the subscriber is replying to."
>>
>> I'm sure this transition arrangement is imperfect; my objectives are 
>> to encourage CentOS to have the separate lists, and to ensure that the 
>> transition is fairly easy for users so we don't lose lots of subscribers.
>>
>> What do others think?
> 
> 
> For the time I have been in this list, I do not remember seeing any 
> message about CentOS 3.x or older. I think what should be done is 

I have.

> reducing the amount of emails per digest, so as to be able to use mime 
> digests, which I think currently is not feasible, due to the amount of 
> the messages per digest.
> 
> This is feasible, does not modify the size of emails, and is a 
> correction to a mailing list "bug" (I consider not being able to use 
> mime digests which is available as an option, a bug).

Digests don't, so far as I can estimate, help more than marginally, and 
on various lists I often see people reply to message "digest ...." I 
filter and <plonk> those.

The bulk of the messages is the same, there's just some variation in the 
volume of the headers.

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Cheers
John

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