I'd like to point out that overall I am quite pleased with CentOS 5, although I am having more fun with it than I did with 4.4 and I knew less about CentOS then (duh). Most things seem to work fine, including a relatively smooth installation from the DVD image I downloaded, although the number of screensavers I can see (and this could be related to the ATI/dual head problem) is pathetically low - there are only 5 or six. Phleagh. I had no trouble reinstalling the border theme I had before, and although I don't particularly like the new main menu construction, it makes sense enough to be not too unworthwhile. I'm curious about how the suspend function works, how to reactivate (nothing seemed to work) and, most importantly, how to get it OFF the main menu. Anyway, I reinstalled Seamonkey 1.1.1, and it landed flawlessly, although I had to look to find the x86_64 version. It came without any plugins, as usual, but I have tried reinstalling the flash player plugin, and it just won't work, not even with nspluginwrapper installed. Is there some trick to this that I need to know (and what?)? Thanks. -- Mark Hull-Richter, Linux Kernel Engineer DATAllegro (www.datallegro.com) 85 Enterprise, Second Floor, Aliso Viejo, CA 92656 949-680-3082 - Office 949-330-7691 - fax Ask me about CentOS Linux, and escape from Windows forever!