Although I know the basics about getting and installing web and mail server ssl certs, I haven't had to "purchase" and do it "myself" for some time. i always had someone else dealing with it. I am wondering what you folks on the list are using on your centos web and mail servers :-) Are you making your own or are you purchasing them from godaddy, thawte, geotrust, verisign, others? What is the best and the least expensive implementation that most browsers and other clients are happy with without phone calls to admins or the NOC or other problems? Thanks for your feedback in advance. - rh -- Abba Communications Spokane, WA www.abbacomm.net