[CentOS] RE: php 5.2
John Hinton
webmaster at ew3d.com
Wed Sep 12 02:25:00 UTC 2007
Melinda Odom wrote:
> Hi,
>
> seems to have a lot of security fixes:
> http://www.php.net/ChangeLog-5.php#5.2.0
>
> Version 5.2.0 was orginally released 02-Nov-2006.
>
> What is the process and time frame for released software to be available in
> an operating system? I am not familiar with this.
>
> Sincerely,
> Melinda Odom
> Design Hosting, Inc.
> www.designhosting.biz
> 479-471-0891
>
>
>
With RedHat it 'depends'... quite literally. A somewhat core package
like php is one that can be troublesome to upgrade. Redhat has rarely
made major version upgrades with php in the past (if ever). This often
times is due to it affecting one or more configuration files. Since they
cannot know if your config files are customized from the initial
installation, they normally don't do an upgrade since it could break
something. Instead, they backport security bugs and issue their own
numbering system so you have good security with the older version. Add
this issue to other issues that might occur, like something a hosting
client might be running on their website.. or heck, even the system that
creates all the pages of their website and a simple upgrade has the
potential to break a lot of things. And then we could go off into all
the php modules for apache, mysql, graphics programs and on and on.
I get frustrated by the slow adoption of new packages by RedHat, but at
the same time I am extremely happy that they chose this business model.
I don't need to run a bunch of updates to find out later that I've taken
down a bunch of websites, interrupted email service or created other
negative effects. So, in the end, I like it how it is. If I really can't
stand it, I'll do an upgrade myself and deal with the ramifications myself.
Dovecot comes to mind right now.. two nasty bugs that are driving me
nuts and both are fixed in 1.x. and several other additions done purely
to take care of the badly broken Outlook email client. So, I can either
do the upgrades myself which fixes these problems but can break things
like SquirrelMail depending on your configuration. The
interrelationships are not always easy to even think about.
There is however a big push to php5 by the years 2008 by the developers
of php. Fortunately CentOS 5 contains php5, which will likely be
upgradeable thru a few minor releases.. perhaps at least 5.2.
Best,
John Hinton
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> 1. php 5.2 (Melinda Odom)
> 2. downloading an src.rpm? (Dave)
> 3. Re: php 5.2 (Alexander Dalloz)
> 4. Re: downloading an src.rpm? (Alexander Dalloz)
> 5. Re: Re: KDE-Repos (Lamar Owen)
> 6. Centos 4.5 clamav update error (Lorenzo)
> 7. Re: Centos 4.5 clamav update error (Ralph Angenendt)
> 8. Re: Centos 4.5 clamav update error (Lorenzo)
> 9. Re: Centos 4.5 clamav update error (John Hinton)
> 10. Re: KDE-Repos (Timothy Kesten)
> 11. Re: Performance of CentOS as a NAT gateway (Bart Schaefer)
> 12. Boot problem with CENTOS 5 (chuck)
> 13. New RTL8111B Wiki Page (Kirk Bocek)
> 14. Re: How to upgrade WBEL4 to CentOS4? (Phil Schaffner)
> 15. Re: package manager (Phil Schaffner)
> 16. Re: Boot problem with CENTOS 5 (Phil Schaffner)
> 17. Re: Performance of CentOS as a NAT gateway (Guy Boisvert)
> 18. Re: Performance of CentOS as a NAT gateway (Guy Boisvert)
> 19. Re: Performance of CentOS as a NAT gateway (Bart Schaefer)
> 20. is there an apache limit on submit size for centos 4 and 5
> (Jerry Geis)
> 21. Re: Performance of CentOS as a NAT gateway (Toby Bluhm)
> 22. Re: How to upgrade WBEL4 to CentOS4? (tdukes at sc.rr.com)
> 23. Re: rpm spec files for ruby (James B. Byrne)
> 24. Re: Performance of CentOS as a NAT gateway (Bart Schaefer)
> 25. Nautilus won't start (Kenneth Porter)
> 26. RE: Performance of CentOS as a NAT gateway (Ross S. W. Walker)
> 27. Re: Performance of CentOS as a NAT gateway (Les Mikesell)
> 28. Re: Performance of CentOS as a NAT gateway
> (gjgowey at tmo.blackberry.net)
> 29. Re: Nautilus won't start (gjgowey at tmo.blackberry.net)
> 30. Re: Nautilus won't start (Kenneth Porter)
> 31. Re: Performance of CentOS as a NAT gateway (Bart Schaefer)
> 32. Re: Performance of CentOS as a NAT gateway (John R Pierce)
> 33. Re: Performance of CentOS as a NAT gateway (Bart Schaefer)
> 34. Downgrade samba? (Jason Pyeron)
> 35. Re: Performance of CentOS as a NAT gateway
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> 36. Re: Downgrade samba? (gjgowey at tmo.blackberry.net)
> 37. Re: rpm spec files for ruby (Karanbir Singh)
> 38. Re: Performance of CentOS as a NAT gateway (Bart Schaefer)
> 39. Re: Downgrade samba? (Karanbir Singh)
> 40. Re: Performance of CentOS as a NAT gateway
> (gjgowey at tmo.blackberry.net)
> 41. apche vhosts ldap (Sunet Sysadmin)
> 42. Re: Performance of CentOS as a NAT gateway (Bart Schaefer)
> 43. Re: Installerror on installation Kaffeine on CentOS 5 (Rex Dieter)
> 44. Re: Performance of CentOS as a NAT gateway
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> 45. Re: How to upgrade WBEL4 to CentOS4? (Scott Silva)
> 46. Re: Boot problem with CENTOS 5 (chuck)
> 47. Re: Boot problem with CENTOS 5 (John R Pierce)
> 48. Re: apche vhosts ldap (Indran D Govender)
> 49. Re: Performance of CentOS as a NAT gateway
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> 50. Network Connection Card Problem? (Jun Salen)
> 51. Re: Network Connection Card Problem? (Jun Salen)
> 52. MD5 and NIS (Jeremy Sanders)
> 53. Re: Network Connection Card Problem? (Alain Spineux)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:39:54 -0500
> From: "Melinda Odom" <info at designhosting.biz>
> Subject: [CentOS] php 5.2
> To: <centos at centos.org>
> Message-ID: <OHEMIKFDMHLDNJAPNOLEAEMNIGAA.info at designhosting.biz>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250"
>
> Hi,
>
> I was asking about php 5.2 because I would like to use this program with
> these requirements:
> http://www.magentocommerce.com/system-requirements
>
> This ecommerce store is built with the zend framework and requires php 5.2.
> Mcrypt is not in the centos mirrors either.
>
> I did manage to get this beta ecommerce store installed on php 5.1.6-12 by
> removing the mycript line in the install xml file and also changing the
> initial install page code to not be less than 5.1 I wouldn't think this
> would be good to do for a production program.
>
> I would prefer to stay with the centos mirror as this is what I have setup.
>
> Hopefully centos will have php 5.2 in the future.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Sincerely,
> Melinda Odom
> Design Hosting, Inc.
> www.designhosting.biz
> 479-471-0891
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:52:21 -0400
> From: "Dave" <dmehler26 at woh.rr.com>
> Subject: [CentOS] downloading an src.rpm?
> To: <centos at centos.org>
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> Hello,
> I've got the rpmforge repo configured as a 3rd party repo. There's an
> rpm that i'd like to get the coresponding src.rpm, install it, and recompile
> it. How would i do this with yum?
> Thanks.
> Dave.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:57:21 +0200
> From: Alexander Dalloz <ad+lists at uni-x.org>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] php 5.2
> To: CentOS mailing list <centos at centos.org>
> Message-ID: <46E55B51.4090302 at uni-x.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250
>
> Melinda Odom schrieb:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I was asking about php 5.2 because I would like to use this program with
>> these requirements:
>> http://www.magentocommerce.com/system-requirements
>>
>> This ecommerce store is built with the zend framework and requires php
>>
> 5.2.
>
>> Mcrypt is not in the centos mirrors either.
>>
>
> http://wftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/centos/5/extras/x86_64/RPMS/php-mcrypt-
> 5.1.6-12.el5.centos.x86_64.rpm
>
> What's that?
>
> Or are you speaking about CentOS 4.5? Then get it through this path:
> http://phprpms.sourceforge.net/mcrypt
>
>
>> Sincerely,
>> Melinda Odom
>>
>
> Alexander
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:01:02 +0200
> From: Alexander Dalloz <ad+lists at uni-x.org>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] downloading an src.rpm?
> To: CentOS mailing list <centos at centos.org>
> Message-ID: <46E55C2E.8000208 at uni-x.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>
> Dave schrieb:
>
>> Hello,
>> I've got the rpmforge repo configured as a 3rd party repo. There's an
>> rpm that i'd like to get the coresponding src.rpm, install it, and
>> recompile it. How would i do this with yum?
>> Thanks.
>> Dave.
>>
>
> yum install yum-utils (from extras)
> yum-downloader <package>
>
> Alexander
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:10:03 -0400
> From: "Lamar Owen" <lowen at pari.edu>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Re: KDE-Repos
> To: CentOS mailing list <centos at centos.org>
> Message-ID: <200709101110.03088.lowen at pari.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Sunday 09 September 2007, Timothy Kesten wrote:
>
>> http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net/
>>
>
>
>> There are mentioned yum Repos for REHL.
>>
>
> This repository works fine. But, be aware that it replaces large portions
> of
> your system, including system libraries. It doesn't touch the kernel, which
> is one reason I use it on several desktops. It gives you a much updated
> userland with the stable kernel base. But, if you across a bug in one of
> the
> libraries KDE-Rehat replaces, you will hten need to take it up with the
> KDE-Redhat maintainer and not file it as a bug report in CentOS.
> --
> Lamar Owen
> Chief Information Officer
> Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute
> 1 PARI Drive
> Rosman, NC 28772
> (828)862-5554
> www.pari.edu
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:12:19 +0200
> From: Lorenzo <lorenzo at gmk.it>
> Subject: [CentOS] Centos 4.5 clamav update error
> To: centos at centos.org
> Message-ID: <46E55ED3.9060403 at gmk.it>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed
>
> Hi all,
> I have a problem updating clamav on my mail server:
>
> Error: Missing Dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4) is needed by package clamav
> Error: Missing Dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4) is needed by package clamd
> Error: Missing Dependency: rtld(GNU_HASH) is needed by package clamav
> Error: Missing Dependency: rtld(GNU_HASH) is needed by package clamd
>
> I'm using rpmforge repo on CentOS 4.5, everything else is up to date.
>
> I guess that there is a conflict with the currently available glibc.i686
> (2.3.4-2.36) and the package providing rtld.
>
> Does anyone knows if there is a fix/workaround for that?
>
> Otherwise is it possible to setup exim to use clamd on a different server
> via
> tcp/ip?
>
> tia
>
> Regards
>
> -Lorenzo Quatrini
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:32:17 +0200
> From: Ralph Angenendt <ra+centos at br-online.de>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos 4.5 clamav update error
> To: centos at centos.org
> Message-ID: <20070910153217.GR1328 at br-online.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Lorenzo wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> I have a problem updating clamav on my mail server:
>>
>> Error: Missing Dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4) is needed by package
>>
> clamav
>
>> Error: Missing Dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4) is needed by package clamd
>> Error: Missing Dependency: rtld(GNU_HASH) is needed by package clamav
>> Error: Missing Dependency: rtld(GNU_HASH) is needed by package clamd
>>
>> I'm using rpmforge repo on CentOS 4.5, everything else is up to date.
>>
>
> You're using the rpmforge repository for CentOS 5 on CentOS 4.5. This
> will and cannot work.
>
> Ralph
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:43:00 +0200
> From: Lorenzo <lorenzo at gmk.it>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos 4.5 clamav update error
> To: CentOS mailing list <centos at centos.org>
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> Ralph Angenendt ha scritto:
>
>> Lorenzo wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I have a problem updating clamav on my mail server:
>>>
>>> Error: Missing Dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4) is needed by package
>>>
> clamav
>
>>> Error: Missing Dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4) is needed by package
>>>
> clamd
>
>>> Error: Missing Dependency: rtld(GNU_HASH) is needed by package clamav
>>> Error: Missing Dependency: rtld(GNU_HASH) is needed by package clamd
>>>
>>> I'm using rpmforge repo on CentOS 4.5, everything else is up to date.
>>>
>> You're using the rpmforge repository for CentOS 5 on CentOS 4.5. This
>> will and cannot work.
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>>
> Thank you Ralph, you are right. Today yum wasn't working with the automatic
> mirror (mirrorlist = http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el4/en/mirrors-rpmforge) so I
> changed rpmforge.repo to point to the file with the mirror-list wich was
> borrowed from a centos 5 setup; so the repo mixing...
>
> Thank you again for your help
>
> -Lorenzo
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:41:55 -0400
> From: John Hinton <webmaster at ew3d.com>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos 4.5 clamav update error
> To: CentOS mailing list <centos at centos.org>
> Message-ID: <46E565C3.8050609 at ew3d.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Ralph Angenendt wrote:
>
>> Lorenzo wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I have a problem updating clamav on my mail server:
>>>
>>> Error: Missing Dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4) is needed by package
>>>
> clamav
>
>>> Error: Missing Dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4) is needed by package
>>>
> clamd
>
>>> Error: Missing Dependency: rtld(GNU_HASH) is needed by package clamav
>>> Error: Missing Dependency: rtld(GNU_HASH) is needed by package clamd
>>>
>>> I'm using rpmforge repo on CentOS 4.5, everything else is up to date.
>>>
>>>
>> You're using the rpmforge repository for CentOS 5 on CentOS 4.5. This
>> will and cannot work.
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>>
> And, if that's not enough, it seems the repository is in overload at the
> moment... I can't get anything right now. You might want to wait a bit
> before trying.
>
> John Hinton
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:57:03 +0200
> From: Timothy Kesten <centos-lst at gmx.de>
> Subject: [CentOS] Re: KDE-Repos
> To: CentOS mailing list <centos at centos.org>
> Message-ID: <200709101757.04026.centos-lst at gmx.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Am Montag, 10. September 2007 17:10 schrieb Lamar Owen:
>
>> This repository works fine. But, be aware that it replaces large portions
>> of your system, including system libraries. It doesn't touch the kernel,
>> which is one reason I use it on several desktops. It gives you a much
>> updated userland with the stable kernel base. But, if you across a bug in
>> one of the libraries KDE-Rehat replaces, you will hten need to take it up
>> with the KDE-Redhat maintainer and not file it as a bug report in CentOS.
>>
>
> Thank you for your explainations.
> I will consider this.
>
> Timothy
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:29:20 -0700
> From: "Bart Schaefer" <barton.schaefer at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Performance of CentOS as a NAT gateway
> To: "CentOS mailing list" <centos at centos.org>
> Message-ID:
> <6bb609560709100929q344ecad4lf6375fd55a0c6a87 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On 9/9/07, David Hrbac( <hrbac.conf at seznam.cz> wrote:
>
>> Bart Schaefer napsal(a):
>>
>>> This is way off-peak time for us (middle of Sunday night PDT) so I
>>> suspect looking at this right now is not very useful, but:
>>>
>> Please do report during peak and net issue time.
>>
>
> We're having a spike right now. Doesn't look much different, though:
>
> # wc -l /proc/net/ip_conntrack
> 17141 /proc/net/ip_conntrack
> # fgrep -cv UNRE /proc/net/ip_conntrack
> 1310
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:46:25 -0700
> From: chuck <chuck.antrim at gmail.com>
> Subject: [CentOS] Boot problem with CENTOS 5
> To: CentOS at centos.org
> Message-ID:
> <1b0daf160709100946n6196eec4j9dbbcb13f0652b0e at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I had everything up and running. All of the help thus far was excellent.
> Thanks!
>
> I then did the updates that the OS prompted to do and selected reboot now
> once they completed.
>
> Now when the server reboots after the bios info I get the following when the
> OS starts to initialize:
>
> GRUB
>
> And it hangs there.
>
> How do I clear this? FIx this?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Chuck
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> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:14:34 -0700
> From: Kirk Bocek <t004 at kbocek.com>
> Subject: [CentOS] New RTL8111B Wiki Page
> To: centos at centos.org
> Message-ID: <46E57B7A.8020103 at kbocek.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> I've created a new CentOS wiki page for the Realtek RTL8111B and related
> NICs:
>
> http://wiki.centos.org/HardwareList/RealTekRTL8111b
>
> There's also a driver disk for CentOS 4.5 and 5.0.
>
> Kirk Bocek
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:54:07 -0400
> From: Phil Schaffner <Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] How to upgrade WBEL4 to CentOS4?
> To: CentOS mailing list <centos at centos.org>
> Message-ID: <1189446847.21893.32.camel at wx1.larc.nasa.gov>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> On Sat, 2007-09-08 at 01:03 -0400, Eric B. wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've got a couple of servers that are running WBEL4 that I would like to
>> upgrade to CentOS4. I noticed that there is a FAQ which explains how to
>> upgrade WBEL3 to CentOS3, but haven't found anything similar for WBEL4.
>>
>> Are the instructions for the WBEL3 upgrade the same for WBEL4? Should I
>>
> be
>
>> doing something else instead?
>>
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>
> The RHEL-5 to CentOS-5 advice quoted on
> http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/MigrationGuide
> should be applicable:
>
> "All that you should need to do is install centos-release, remove
> redhat-release rpms and just yum update the machine, which should bring
> in all packages changed by CentOS ( since they will have a slightly
> higher E-V-R )." - per KaranbirSingh on centos-list
>
>
> Phil
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:01:46 -0400
> From: Phil Schaffner <Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] package manager
> To: CentOS mailing list <centos at centos.org>
> Message-ID: <1189447306.21893.38.camel at wx1.larc.nasa.gov>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 11:49 -0700, Dan Dansereau wrote:
>
>> How do I force the package manager to re-install a package?
>>
>>
>>
>> Such as Development - > Development Tools -> G77
>>
>>
>>
>> Or the entire Development tools package?
>>
>> The G77 Is missing b
>>
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