On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Jim Perrin <jperrin at gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Chris Brentano > <chris.brentano at jivesoftware.com> wrote: >> Hmm, it should be there no matter what, even if you deselect all the package >> groups on install. Should be at /usr/bin/yum. > > You'd think that, however there seems to be a growing (or at least > their users are complaining more vocally on irc) number of VPS > providers using a very stripped down version of centos. They ship it > without yum, which would imply that folks are not able to get basic > security updates via the normal route (if at all). > > While I could possibly see excluding the kernel and maybe a few other > packages since it runs a custom built openvz kernel, the entire > removal of yum is extreme, and seems very careless of these VPS > providers. Not only they cannot do updates. They cannot install additional packages. If the idea of having a VPS is that it is like having a Dedicated Server, the people buying those brain dead VPS are getting a very crippled system.