Curmudgeoning (was Re: [CentOS] Problems with writing Dual Layer DVD)

Thu Aug 28 17:17:34 UTC 2008
David Dyer-Bennet <dd-b at>

On Wed, August 27, 2008 14:19, William L. Maltby wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 20:13 +0200, Chris Geldenhuis wrote:

>>  From reading your many and interesting posts to this list I realize
>> that we must be contemporaries (possibly I started programming before
>> you - circa 1963 on a ICL1500 aka RCA 301 in assembler or directly
>> punching machine code into punch cards).
> Yep. I had my 1st professional job in 1969. I was in the "modern" age,
> S360 stuff was the equipment then. The punch cards were still there,
> made on 026 and 029 card punches and read by MFCMs to load programs into
> IBM's DOS.
> I guess we're both old enough to fill in for JP when the resident
> curmudgeon is not on-list.  ;-)

You can list me as a backup curmudgeon as well :-).

Started being paid to write software in 1969, for an IBM 1401.  026 and
029 card punches for me, too; I preferred the keyboard touch on the 026 by
quite a lot.  14" five platter removable pack disk drives that
stored...around 1.5MB if I'm remembering right (can't seem to find the
info online quickly, either; might be as high as 2MB).

I don't think I still remember much about how to make drum cards, though. 
I *do* have some cards from back then out near my computer at home; found
them cleaning out some stuff, and could quite bear to just dump them, so
they're kicking around.
David Dyer-Bennet, dd-b at;