> You'd think that, however there seems to be a growing (or at least > their users are complaining more vocally on irc) number of VPS > providers using a very stripped down version of centos. They ship it > without yum, which would imply that folks are not able to get basic > security updates via the normal route (if at all). Perhaps it's the high cost of CentOS driving people into the competitions' arms. Maybe it's time we looked at dropping the cost, especially with the inevitable christmas rush. -- Spiro Harvey Knossos Networks Ltd 021-295-1923 www.knossos.net.nz