On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 12:00 +0530, Sadaruwan Samaraweera wrote: > Hi, > > Yes I know what your saying ok! I didn't ask him any descent question > but I gave a solution based on my experience. So why hell r u guy's > coming after me First, don't get offended. If you've been on any/many lists for awhile, you'll know that time is at a premium for many of the participants and they tend to give short answers. *And* when someone gives "definitive" answers based on (possibly incorrect) assumptions (like the problem is similar to yours, equipment similar to yours, net setup similar, ...) they are quick to jump in because those answers may lead to severe damage to the recipient. Sometimes immediate harm, sometimes longer-term difficulty. Because of those risks, it is important to try to fully understand (to a *reasonable* extent, for the time expended) the nature of a problem, its operational environment, various constraints that may be in place, etc., before offering solutions that may be tried. That is why, if you follow the lists on *good* sites like CentOS, you will often see (I'll exaggerate now) "My network card doesn't work! Help" followed by various types of responses saying, essentially, something like "We need more information" and those responses may ask specific questions. Solving many technical problems can be difficult even in a hands-on situation, it's inordinately more difficult to do remotely. As with *any* resolution process, the first step is to identify the *problem*, *not* the *symptoms*. Symptoms are clues pointing to the problem. Ergo, sufficient, but *not* excessive information is a necessity. *Experienced* people know this and will quickly try to help *educate* those who don't seem to know this, whether is is the person with the problem or one responding to the OP. That's why we are "coming after you". The problem is not "we are coming after you", the problem is that both the OP and you seem to have been extremely casual in the problem resolution process and that engenders a high degree of risk to the OP and none for you. Further it wastes the valuable time of those who might try to help, both in reading the original request for help (and then having to ask for even the most basic pertinent information) and in reading replies that may be offered that pose excessive risk to those who might use the offered solutions. So, "education" is in order so that *all* may benefit, including the OP, the folks who reply and even just those who have to wade through som many useless posts (and post of the type being discussed ar, at best, useless). As long as no one is completely crude, rude and unattractive in their replies (not always the case), you should take no offense. My suggestion is you thicken your skin, contribute as you can and desire to, with *due* *care*, and learn from others as we *all* learn from others on this list. > and as you said in the world of IT there are lot of perhaps OK buddy. I don't know what you mean by this. > > Regards, > Sadaruwan I won't even mention top posting or failure to snip text not needed. ;-) > <snip> -- Bill