At 09:38 AM 7/1/2008, you wrote: >On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Tony Wicks ><<mailto:tonyw at tonywicks.com>tonyw at tonywicks.com> wrote: > > >I would like to add something, as a South African citizen. South >Africa, is NOT part of Africa for that matter, it's a republic on >it's own. It's almost like saying "Let's ban America, cause someone >in Mexico spammed me". South Africa, which is on the 196/8 range >does a LOT of business overseas in many countries, and I do want to >warn that you could loose a lot of good business due to this practice. > >Most of the fraud you experience could come from Nigeria, or one of >the other central & western Africa countries. To ban a whole >continent because of problems some countries cause could be problematic. > >For that matter is China a different country from Russia, from >Switzerland, even though they share the same land mass > > >-- > >I need to put my 2c in here. I'm from New Zealand, we are a first >world democratic country (the first in the worlds to give the vote >to ALL adults I may mention). I have had the misfortune many of >times of being unable to transact business because people from the >US in their ignorance think, that New Zealand, isn't that part of >Australia, which is right next to Asia, can't do business with those >Asians, they will rip me off. Now sometimes people from the US have >asked me why people in the other parts of the world get a bit >annoyed at the "the only country that is free and true if the good >old US of A" attitude, and well here you go as an example. Lets ban >all of Africa because someone from Nigeria is a scammer. Africa is a >pretty big place, and you know what, I've met many South Africans >that are real nice (even employed a few). I've always been someone >who defends America when people run it down, but it is a two way >street, don't treat a whole country as criminals because you don't >know the difference between one side of a continent from another, >its kind of insulting you know. And some day you might well need the >rest of us, you never know. > > > > >If a business only wants to do transaction with people in their own >country, what is wrong with that? There is no international law >that says they have to provide services or products to you because >you live in a different country. Sometimes the lost revenue by not >doing business outside your own country is better than having to >deal with the possibility of fraud. Sometimes it is more of a >hassle to deal with shipping, service and/or support issues with >people from a different country and it's just not worth it. > >-- >-matt Hello All, I've seen a lot of very good and valid comments come out of this discussion! I had a mail server that, initially, had no need for foreign (Outside US) communication. Then exceptions started highly complicating the situation. I used this database lookup to compile a list, by country, of those I wanted to block based upon my mail server's history with communications with them and on the histories of my users/customers. http://ip.ludost.net/ Very useful tool! Cheers, Glenn Parsons -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20080701/108ef1f9/attachment-0005.html>