On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 15:20 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote: > On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 11:25 -0700, nate wrote: > ><snip> > Well, that was involved partly. The other user owned all the > devices /dev/{gpmctl,mixer,audio,adsp,snd} *and* floppies, HD, > nvidia, ... > > So I ran > > find /dev -user bill -exec chown hardtolove {} \; > > which I really shouldn't (I know better). But that did provide a small > gain. > > I can now open the Volume Control Panel (for a lurking friend, that is > VCP ;-) > > I still can't open the volume slider that drops down from the little > speaker icon. So something is better, something still not fixed. > > > > > So, check permissions on /dev/snd/* and /dev/dsp, another thing I do > > to test is run a command line program that generates a sound(I > > use mpg123 out of habbit which plays mp3 files), and see if you > > notice any permission denied type errors. > > Will do. Signing off to find out where I can get mpg123. I think I'll > pop a CD in again first and see what I can doo-dah, doo-dah with that. > > BRB Ahhhhh! Music to my ears! CD is playing alright. Volume Control Panel mute, volume, balance all work. In *my* original thread (not the one from ech - Jim?), I couldn't even open the Volume Cont... crap that's too long - VCP ;-) (you know who you are!) So, I suspect we have achieved bug nirvana. ISTM that the problem is isolated to Gnome or it's interface to the system *or* a failure in some OS component. 1) Gave (properly?) ownership of the devices to a user other than the desktop owner (NB: *if* it is legal for a user other than desktop owner to use the facilities because the user is "in the desktop", being invoked from a Gnome terminal, then the device ownership should be given to the user of the device, just as with tty devices). 2) When the using application(s) are terminated, the devices ownership should be returned to root, as with tty devices, or back to the desktop user (if that user ever owned them *before* the devices were used - which they weren't in this case) allowing later allocation to another user again and making them also available for the desktop user. 3) When ownership of the devices were manually changed to root owner, *part* of the desktop facilities began operating normally. 4) Only part not working now is the volume control application out of the speaker icon on my panel. 5) As you suspected, lookie here! # cd ~hardtolove;find . -user bill -ls 16646219 7948 -rwxr-xr-x 1 bill bill 8119784 Nov 20 2007 ./firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so 16646218 8 -rw-r--r-- 1 bill bill 856 Dec 15 2006 ./firefox/plugins/flashplayer.xpt The Q now is will changing ownership of these affect the volume slider? Shouldn't? First one is an LSB shared object, second one is data. Anyway, with your (and all the others too) help, we have a reproducible situation and some clues. Before I write a bug report (after seeing that one doesn't exist), anything else you think I could look for or try? > > > > > nate > ><snip sig stuff> Thanks again, -- Bill