[CentOS] OT: Top Posting

Fri May 16 15:14:21 UTC 2008
Carol Anne Ogdin <caogdin at gmail.com>

Dear Mr. Singh:

I understand you prefer this medium.  I have practical experience with
alternatives that have offered measurable and definite benefits to the
communities they serve.

Your opinions are louder than your putative experience.  Unfortunately, in
51 years in the computer industry, I've sometimes had to cope with behaviors
like yours.  It still makes me sad to experience such unhappy people who
think that attack is the best way to enrich a collaboration.

--Carol Anne

> -----Original Message-----
> From: centos-bounces at centos.org 
> [mailto:centos-bounces at centos.org] On Behalf Of Karanbir Singh
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 6:07 PM
> To: CentOS mailing list
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
> Carol Anne Ogdin wrote:
> > Jumping in late here:  I sincerely wish that this list was 
> maintained 
> > on any of the quality "bulletin board" or "Forum" tools.  It would 
> > reduce my eMail load, allow me to zoom in on just the issues of 
> > interest to me at the moment, and I can eMail those posts to myself 
> > that are relevant to my own needs for further editing and 
> documentation.
> > 
> > I find the entire USENET and eMail list thing utterly antediluvian, 
> > and wicked hard to use.  Often, I can only barely remember that 
> > *maybe* something relevant was discussed months ago, but is now 
> > relevant to my current issue today.  A "forum" is more 
> practical as a 
> > tool for building a collective knowledge of the CentOS community.  
> > This eMail list just doesn't cut it for a "knowledge base" 
> built up of our collective experience.
> > 
> > Of course, for those of you who still prefer this medium, a "forum" 
> > can eMail you posts, just like you see them today.  But people who 
> > would like to search for a solution from a year or so ago 
> could search 
> > the central resource.
> Excuse me for being caustic, but you sound delusional. I'd 
> guess you have heard of this thing called 'search' ? it works 
> best on text, that is context specific and goes with you in 
> the list archive.
> Besides, Forums are a total and complete waste of time for 
> me. I cant be asked to go clicking around all over the place 
> looking for posts here and there in various websites and 
> pages while on the other hand I can aggregate the list feeds 
> that interest me into a common resource that is available to 
> me on th move or whenever I might need.
> And I know that this is the state of play with a large number 
> of people who dont have the time going out looking for 
> things, but prefer letting info / content come to them. Most 
> forums are populated by drive-by posters, since they have a 
> lower barrier to entry and an ever lower barrier to exit. 
> While is quite the opposite to the lists. The info comes to 
> you once you are subscribed, and an easy search digs up 
> relevant content when you need it.
> One of the reasons I have such high regard for the few people 
> who stick it out in the CentOS Forums working and helping the 
> people who come posting there is because I know just how much 
> work it is and just how much time is taken up by it. I, for 
> one, cant put in that effort.
> Anyway, if you dont like the lists, you can unsubscribe from 
> them ( subscription info is included in the headers of each 
> email sent form the list), and move to the forums on 
> www.centos.org. Why are you even here wasting your time ?
> I'd give you 40 technical reasons why forums are not nearly 
> as productive as lists, but I cant be asked really.
> --
> Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522219 at icq 
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