On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Bob Hoffman <bob at bobhoffman.com> wrote: > [From vandaman2002-rt(at)yahoo.com:] >> >> Griesbach, Lutz wrote: >> >> > Oh, c'mon! >> >> > If I want to talk about professional honor, I'd prefer a >> different list. >> > So, I thought it might be possible to stick in the release during >> > nightly updates, but your educational answer doesn't help much. >> >> Get out of your high horse. You are running a server with >> automatic updates and then talk of "professional honor" and >> "educational answer"? Try RTFM. > > I think he was inferring that you insulting him did not help the question. > A few thoughts: 1) Perhaps Mr (Ms?) vandaman was offended by the lengthy signature with all the bells and whistles from Lutz. I remember when I first started on this list, all I had was my name and title, which happened to be "Linux Kernel Engineer," and I caught a fair amount of flack for /that/. 2) Such a level of disdain and discord is not really appropriate for a first response on the list unless the question is banally stupid, and this one, which appears here often enough, isn't quite that low. 3) Suggestion for Lutz (and vandaman): both of you are relatively new to this list. In general, it is considered good netiquette to lurk for a while and see what posts and responses look like before plunging in and offending people, intentionally or not. 4) If you are really, truly looking for a quick answer, an email list is not the place to ask first - google is your friend, and email list archives are a good resource to look through as well. In this particular case, the subject has come up often (probably because many, perhaps most, members do NOT use google or the email archives). 5) Bottom post, trim responses, be polite, no html, etc., etc. - remember those last few posts right here on this email list? The guidelines are right there in a link when you sign up, and you AGREED to them, so you ought to read them and take heed, too. "So play /nice/." (Woody, "Toy Story") Nazdrovyeh! mhr