I don't think a new list will work any better than this list. As far as an OT post I will give an example, if somewhat contrived: I'm looking for a, possible freeware, app that I know *what it does* but do not have a clue what various and sundry names it hides behind. I've tried a number of times to generate a google search without luck. Where do I go to find an answer? Sometimes to find an answer to a question you must ask somewhere. I'd rather see someone ask than go back to w*****s! Bob -- Bob Taylor