Karanbir Singh wrote: > Chris Geldenhuis wrote: >> I agree with Jeff, in other forums where that I belong to the >> distinction between "tech" and "chat" quickly becomes blurred and >> many posts are cross posted to both (or all) lists, causing >> duplication in downloads and scanning. > > how about when the distinction is between Support/help and > technoglogy/best-practices ? It would be easy enough to subscribe or not to a second list. I'm finding that more and more I'm just doing mass deletes from this mailing list and not really gaining anything.... it's a lack of time thing. Some of what creates the lack of time is drudging through 10 or 20 potential 'outside' solutions to solve an issue with our systems. Try signing up for the Sendmail list, the mysql list, the php list, the apache list and then try to read them faster than they come in! And then within one of those other list, with lots of flavors of 'nix, try to come up with a solution that works best within Centos... So you get stuck in no where land... From the Centos side, it's not a Centos issue but instead a 'insert software shipped with distro here' issue.... talk to them. And then from their side, it's a Centos issue and the way upstream does their stuff. In all fairness, this list has been extremely good about allowing in many cases what gets out there on the edge of Centos topics. At the same time, when we have Centos users who just want to run a personal desktop or laptop... and we have full blown server farms running some of the most cutting edge and powerful systems in the world.... how can we expect to all live under the same roof with one mailing list? Personally, I run webservers under Centos. One of the nuances that comes with this is spam. I think all on this list who are in the same boat have restrained to a huge degree discussions about dealing with spam or spam filtering. We simply know it could all but take over this list and that it is really not quite appropriate here. DNS, Apache, mail programs... all can lead to in depth discussions.... again not really appropriate on a general list. I have used restraint. I can only suppose that many others have as well. I very much like the idea of another list, which is for the discussion of more extensive use of Centos. I also believe this list is quite appropriate for 'getting Centos to run' on whatever system you're trying to use. But I'll never need to know how to hook up my camera, get a wireless card to work, figure out why my uber video card doesn't work or really anything to do with a GUI in Centos as these are desktop issues. I don't want to sound like an elitist or anything... it's just different uses. Neither one is above the others.... just different needs. Perhaps a new list name that might be considered would be CentOS-Extended or CentOS-Servers. A place where Apache conf can be discussed, as I'm sure the desktop users don't want to hear about this... or running a DNS server... and the hoards of issues that come with running a mailserver. Best, John Hinton