With all due respect... Do any of you that gave advice on finding DJB software in rpm format use any of the software that you are giving advice on finding in rpm format or otherwise? If you do use it, you can do better. :-) If not, well... then you are talking out yer' rear ends. It is best to go to the source and learn all you can, then make your own rpm or know what you are looking for in an rpm and specifically why. http://cr.yp.to and it wasn't the hard to google for daemontools rpm or the other packages in rpm format. - rh