Dear Kai, > I think the community would benefit from opening a new mailing list for > these issues. There's already a promo list, but a discussion like this > doesn't really fit on it. I also think it doesn't fit here. > So, I think everyone interested about CentOS management should be able to > do so on a mailing list "centos-community" or "centos-management" or so. I think that 'centos' is the correct list to address these issues as it's the most commonly read list and where the 'community' lives. I have to agree to Russ in some points: The 'rebuild' process is clearly defined and automated in most tasks. But that is not what I meant. CentOS offers much more. It has a wiki with (in my pov) very good documentation of admin tasks, a vital forum and mailinglists with a technical orientated user base. There are several different tasks besides the rebuild itself. I was thinking about things like the new website, artwork, LiveCD spins (which was often requested) a well populated 'Contrib' repository (free and non-free) , active SIGs (even promotion and marketing) and even architecture ports. Russ, I also share your conservative attitude, because it needs a well structured and trusted backend to build up an enterprise os many ppl rely on, but there is a community waiting in front of the door, and I personally see no reason not to welcome them. A legal entity for the project and an elected board (or at least a community manager who acts as 'bridge' between the community members and the so called core team) are necessary in my pov. Best Regards Marcus