> > This presents a ripe opportunity for a perception of > "unwarranted criticism", "whining" by someone who paid > nothing, "lack of appreciation for all the *free* hard work > we do", etc. > > > <snip sig stuff> > > -- > Bill > Bill, Good points... yet you forgot about "presentation".... if a person makes a poor presentation of possibly helpful and/or valid criticism, then it is similar to the wisdom that says... As a jewel of gold in a swine's snout, so is a fair woman which is without discretion. plus... ...maybe some are forgetting that the upstream does close to 700 million a year in sales and has no debt... after all the number crunching it appears they show a profit in the 80 million a year range. in my humble estimation, CentOS if run reasonably well and truly supported by it's community could have a good fraction of to a full 1% of that yearly.... The Team does extremely well technically now, yet imagine how well the CentOS Dev team could do if they could take paychecks as well as hire other needed positions. eh? I'd like to see CentOS flourish in all possible ways !!! i want to ride on the CentOS Lear when it is ready please???? ;-> again, it really will be best if people would "stop poking the bears". - rh