So, at wits end. Have gone back to plain text for pop3. I set up the ssl as per instructions but I always get a 'chain' error first time trying to receive mail with my mail client. Comes down I believe to the need to get a CA for dovecot's pem files or I will always get an error. Now I am thinking since I am self signing my own mail I should be able to make that intermediate crt file for dovecot....but have no idea the name or process for that one. I am not gonna pay 30 dollars to get a signed cert for my own mail, nor do I want to keep getting that error when my mail client opens up. So...anyone ever do a self signed cert with dovecot and went ssl pop3s? Millions of posts out there but no one has an answer. bummed