[CentOS] Dag's comment at linuxtag

Radu-Cristian FOTESCU beranger5ca at yahoo.ca
Mon Jun 29 20:42:11 UTC 2009

> (1) I expect now patches from you to make a workable
> audacious based on our audacious package. Apparently 
> you have the interest and the time to do it ?

RF's audacious has unmet dependencies. It's as simple as that.
It lacks audacious-plugins.

> (2) No, they are not compatible, we know. Share to
> help with this too ?
> You first have to convince the Fedora
> people that they will not
> introduce new incompatibilities before starting.

Nay. Please read again how my tiny repo tries to "fix/hack"
the 4 libs from EPEL that break RF's MPlayer and VLC.

Should the Fedora people be insensitive, what prevents you
from just "suck in" the newer libdvdread, libdvdnav, libcaca
and lzo from EPEL and just rebuild RF's VLC and MPlayer?

Because, honestly, a good deal of people only need the
MPlayer+VLC+gstream stuff from RF. My understanding is
that RF is so huge that it's very hard to manage, but...
I'm afraid I have to say it's quite a "static" repo
which doesn't try to rebuild anything!

> Shall I simply stop doing RPMforge ?

Hopefully not, *but* how about 400 rock-solid packages
in RF instead of 8,000 packages with: some abandoned; some
broken; etc.?

> Is that the position you prefer to force me into ?
> Because I certainly did not force you into using 
> the repository.

Nobody is trying to force anyone into anything. It just
happens that your repo is the only one to offer VLC, for 
instance. And I personally needed a quick & dirty hack to
accommodate RF with EPEL. That's all.

> I don't know even why you want to use RPMforge, there must
> be something that is missing from EPEL ?

Yes. Let me state again:
yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install gstreamer-plugins-bad gstreamer-plugins-ugly gstreamer-ffmpeg
yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install mplayer mplayer-fonts mplayer-skins mplayerplug-in smplayer
yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install vlc

That's all I need from VLC. Dozens of multimedia dependent packages 
though. Some of them legally unsuitable for EPEL.

And RPM Fusion doesn't even have VLC.

> I am happy to learn what you want to do though, because it
> is easy to criticize, but it takes time to do some work.

I know, and I understand that you are now vexed, but, like I said:
instead of 8,000 packages in RF, better have 400 rock-solid ones?
> (And I hope the solution is not another repository, because
> we have been there :-))

The solution is *always* another repo. Why do you believe there are
so many Linux distros? Are they really NEEDED? Nope. They're more 
than 3-4 distros because people can NOT cooperate properly, and
their quick fix is to fork and whatnot.


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