On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 14:30 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > David G. Mackay wrote: > > > >>> Also, there are several engineers at Red Hat that are very unhappy with > >>> the impact that the 3.0 release is going to have on them. > >> Yes but it has been obvious for a long time that python does not > >> consider backwards compatibility to be important. This shouldn't have > >> come as a surprise. By comparison, perl has been around longer and > > > > Judging by some of the comments on the fedora-devel list, it did anyway. > > Maybe some of those developers are young enough to not understand the > history. Or to have learned from experience that it matters. The ones that I'm thinking about were from the RHEL engineering staff. That doesn't preclude them from being young, but they were surprised by the extent of the incompatibilities. Maybe the young ones are all that will be left after the ones that are charged with making some of the Fedora 11 stuff acceptable to a professional user base have committed ritual sepuku. > > Google? ;) > > How do you tell google to _not_ give you text matches that are really > not about downloadable code modules in the language you want this week? Well, I try to make my searches specific to what I'm looking for. The more key words that I can throw at it, the less extraneous cruft comes up. > > I guess the real question is how well java is going to prosper under > > Oracle's ownership. Then again, with openjdk, it might not matter too > > much. > > I don't think that can become much of an issue. On the other hand, some > of the other interesting projects (glassfish, opengrok, etc.) might be > more likely to go away or change. Yeah, I've been tracking the Wonderland project. So far I haven't heard much from the development team one way or the other. Dave