On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 13:27 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: > operating systems, servers like Apache, Sendmail, Postfix, things like > Java JVM innards, those are written in C/C++ Mostly, yes. There is some assembly in most OSs. And, they're mostly in C. If you have to sink to C++ to get your programmers to code properly, you need new programmers. Dave