> A quick look at http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=centos > shows that a great majority of the packages are not even > close to being "up-to-date", and that is a good thing for > those us of who care more about stability than eyecandy. That can't be other way. For instance, you can't build GIMP 2.4 or 2.6 unless you you upgrade to a newer GTK+, which would impact on a lot of apps. OTOH, Dag is in a funny position: he's the main maintainer of RPMforge, which has 2 main issues: (1) It's broken, at least partially. Try install audacious for one. (2) It's incompatible with EPEL. Try install MPlayer and VLC with EPEL enabled. To workaround some of the issues and make CentOS 5.3 a suitable distro for my Acer laptop (except that I don't use wireless and I haven't even tried to), I've made my own repo here: http://odiecolon.lastdot.org/ Read the first-page text and rationale *very* carefully! It's therefore an ugly hack to allow: *** the use of the following packages from RPMforge: (1) gstreamer-plugins-bad gstreamer-plugins-ugly gstreamer-ffmpeg (2) mplayer mplayer-fonts mplayer-skins mplayerplug-in smplayer (3) vlc *** the regular use of EPEL for everything else; *** the use of newer packages, such as GIMP 2.3.15 as an "almost-2.4" alternative to the obsolete 2.2.12; *** the use of other (unavailable in EPEL or newer) packages, including "cosmetic mood enhancers": (i) gnome-dustwave-theme 0.1, a mix of two themes introduced with Ubuntu Jaunty: it uses Dust for Metacity, and New Wave for the GTK+ decorations. Compiz effects *must* be disabled. (ii) gtk-nimbus-theme 0.1.2, the latest default theme that comes with OpenSolaris 2009.06. As I am not even on my home continent these days and I can't fix any reported issue right now (oh well, but does Dag ever fix RPMforge?), I have not announced this repo in any public place, but it was nevertheless announced on epel-devel-list: https://www.redhat.com/archives/epel-devel-list/2009-June/msg00103.html Be free to test and report. Thanks, R-C aka Béranger __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/