Hi Jerry, On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 18:35, Jerry Geis <geisj at pagestation.com> wrote: > how do I prevent gnome_panel from starting up? > > once its started I can do "gnome-session-remove gnome_panel" > But I dont want it to startup at all. Try running "gnome-session-save" after you removed the panels, in that case I believe they might not come back the next time you start Gnome. I did not test your specific case, though, it might not work... You might want to try "gnome-session-properties" as well. HTH, Filipe